xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Elderhostel Notebook #30, July 26, 1998 oxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Elderhostel Notebook is a production of The Senior Group, an informal group of older netizens. It provides a place for elderhostlers to share information about Elderhosteling and other learning experiences related to travel. It has a world wide web site at http://discover-net.net/~jimo/eldnote/eldnote.html It is an independent project, appreciative of but not associated with Elderhostel Inc. To subscribe to the e-mail edition send an e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org ********************************************** Contents From the Editors Notebook Elderhostel News and Reviews Black Hills State University Trinity College (Washington, D.C.) Appalachian Adventures Sheldon Jackson College in Sitka, Ak Personals ######################################## Editor's Notebook ######################################## Readers sometimes ask about the "Elderhostel Insider" newsletter and how they can get on the mailing list for this quarterly publication of Elderhostel Inc. The newsletter is mailed to about 70,000 elderhostel enthusiasts who "have a demonstrated history of frequent program participation." It contains news and features about Elderhostel. I guess one needs to attend a number of programs on a regular basis, and I suspect contributing to an Elderhostel charitable fund also demonstrates that you are an Elderhostel enthusiast. At any rate it is an interesting and informative publication. The fall 1998 issue contains information about a new toll free registration number, some other improvements in registration and information about new material in the web site (http://www.elderhostel.org) including the new online international catalog. The newsletter also has a number of other feature stories. Perhaps at some future date an e-mail version or web page version will become available. I have been toying with several ideas of how to make the Notebook back issues more accessible to readers in a manner that makes them searchable, and when time permits may be coming up with something (as soon as I learn to PERL while having my JAVA). But that may take awhile as Maggie and I plan to step up our hosteling activity a little next year after some personal health and other family issues are resolved. One program we won't be we won't be doing in the near future is the Galapogas program as Elderhostel has cancelled that program this year pending the outcome of an investigation of the June tragedy involving that program as described in the last issue of the Notebook. In regard to that report we have some further information about some inaccuracies in those early accounts; according to a friend and colleague Richard Sayre was 70 years old at the time of his death and not 80 as reported, and the body of his wife Diane Sayre was among the first recovered and not still missing as reported. Several readers mentioned having seen a CBS and an NBC news cast about the incident and reported quite different coverage by the two networks. I imagine it will be some time before the investigations are complete and a more accurate picture of the event emerges. ######################################### Elderhostel News and Reviews ######################################### "Great Places, Great Faces" Black Hills State University Spearfish, SD June l998 BAHamm@webtv.net (Billie A. Hamm) EXCELLENT PROGRAM---well organized by Dr. Riley Chrisman and Verla Fish (coordinator) Program geared to tourism and how it has affected Blackhills area of South Dakota. We did field trips to the following----Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse Memorial,Pactola lake,Badlands Natl. Park, Wall, SD (Wall Drug store),Journey Museum (RapidCity), High Plains Heritage Center (Spearfish),Bear Butte, Deadwood, Lead,Spearfish canyon , Vore Buffalo jump, (Wyo) and Devils Tower (Wyo) with a stop at" Pararie dog city" on way home. Our day consisted of an early breakfast (6:30 am)--packing our own lunch from a variety of cold cuts, Pnut butter, jelly, fruit, P chips etc and loading it in a cooler to be put on the bus. An early lecture (7:45-9:00 am), usually on where ever we were headed for the day and then loadiing up on the bus (one with a bathroom) and returning around 5 pm in time for an early supper (5:30pm.) We had a speaker from the SD Gaming Commision (regulating gambling in Deadwood) one night. There were 47 of us. We stayed in the dorm which was a good walk to and from the cafeteria. All the rooms had sinks in them and usual the shared bath facilities. there was ample closet space, drawer space ect. A group went one night to the Black Hills Passion Play ( which is in Spearfish) and ohers went to Deadwood (14 miles) to see a reinactment of the trial of Jack McCall. He was the killer of Wild Bill Hickok. other wise not much planned for nights-but actually we were pretty tired from a long day of travel and sites. 6:30 am comes early and even for those that didnt want breakfast, they had to go pack their lunch! Food: what can I say. it was pretty greasy, college cafeteria fare--not to my liking at all. Breakfast was ok-oatmeal , cold ceral, fruit and usually somethin hot like eggs, frenchtoast and you could make your own waffles each morniing. Supper was not much to choose from. lots of fried stuff, lots of beef, anyway, we ate out a lot at night. ( we had rented a car) Lots of trout farms in area. I had fish and my traveling companion ate Elk and Buffalo etc. Kevin Costner has a bar,casino, resturant (gormet) in Deadwood and night we went to play there we splurged and ate there. I had fresh pike ( the fish of the area) that was delicious. All in all, one of the best I have attended. If you like lots of traveliing and sight seeing this is one for you. Riley was a great leader and teacher and he saw to it we were never bored. Weather was delightful--a nice respite from the summer heat. Slept wtih two blankets at night and NO humidity during day. Temps in 60s and low 70s. Some showers but they were just that-showers.( except for one morning ), it poured and we had to cancel walkiing tour of deadwood (did it next am) but hey, we got to go to Lead instead and go into a working gold mine. this was a bonus that wasnt on our itenary. I would rate this one a 9 on scale of 10. Just a note Spearfish is the 2nd largest city in black hills of SD (7000 population) Rapid City 1st (50.000 ) . edtors note- This report has a photo page in the web edition. __________________ Trinity College, #51300-0607-1 June 7-13, 1998 by email@example.com My wife and I just got back from this excellent course in the Washington, DC area. The programs were on Love's Labors Shared: The Great American Art Collectors, Treasure Houses of Washington, D.C., and With Malice Toward Some: A Literary Mystery. Love's Labors Shared covered mostly the great art collections located in the Washington, DC area including those of Duncan Phillips, Marjorie Merriweather Post, Joseph Hirshhorn and David Lloyd Kreeger. We were told how they put their collections together and what criteria they used in their selections. We thought the subject was covered very well. The course was given by someone from The Kreeger Museum, where we went on an afternoon field trip. We were given a private tour of the museum by our instructor. Treasure Houses of Washington, DC, gave an excellent detailed review of houses in the Washington metropolitan area including Alexandria, Virginia. A treasure house as defined by the course had to have at least one of the following traits: An architectural treasure, What's in the house, or What happened there. Our instructor knew and lot about the history of the area and answered all of our questions about different places in the area. We were given an extensive listing of the 50 odd houses which included a short description of each. We only got to go on field trips to about 5 houses, but with the listing, we could tour others on our own. It was a real treat to go though all of the homes. We were not rushed at all on any of the field trips. With Malice Toward Some was about the golden age of Mystery, mysteries written in the 20's and 40's. A very good course with quite a few handouts covering the many details of the various mysteries written during that period. Current mysteries were also covered but the main emphasis was on the golden age. The highlight of the course was a talk by the author of the mystery "Bloody Bonsai", Peter Abresch. Bloody Bonsai is the first in a series of mysteries that take place during an Elderhostel course. I enjoyed reading the mystery later and I'm looking forward to future mysteries revolving around the Elderhostel program. Unlike some of the other programs we attended, we were given ample free time to go out on our own and explore the city. A shuttle ran every 20 minutes from the college to the closest subway station. It was very easy to zip down to the Smithsonian Mall, via the Metro, and go through their museums which is what I did one day. The housing at Trinity College was excellent, where all the attendees had private bathrooms. A few years ago the dormitory was renovated especially for the Elderhostel program. We had our own lounge area and kitchen on the top floor, reserved exclusively for Elderhostelers. All of our meals were served in the school cafeteria which offered a variety of food each day. Our rooms were some distance from the cafeteria and the classroom and involved lots of steps, which some avoided by walking along the driveways. That took longer, but no steps. The whole program was well organized and we were glad we attended. Trinity College fully supports Elderhostel by having courses pretty much year round on a variety of subjects. firstname.lastname@example.org Dave and Nancy Harvey _______________ "Appalachian Adventures" at The Mountain Retreat and Learning Center email@example.com (Carole E. Bookhart) Just recently completed a fun-filled, excellently run elderhostel at The Mountain, literally sitting atop a 4200' mountain just outside Highlands, NC. A well-organized, very experienced staff with a diversity of expertise led us through our "Appalachian Adventure: Hiking, Rafting, History and More". The accommodations varied from quite rustic cabins, to newly renovated cabins, to private roooms in an 8-yr. old Lodge, where the furnishings were simple, but comfortable. The meals were prepared by a Cherokee Indian chef and served buffet style in the Dining Hall. The food was wholesome, tasty, and abundant. Plus dinner every evening was preceeded by a Social Hour where all-you-could-eat popcorn was served along with pay-as-you-go drinks. Since this was billed as a mainly outdoor program, we were somewhat disappointed that typical mountain rains fell during the two days set aside for hiking. The first day's hike went on as scheduled, with those who wanted to ride back in vans after the first 3 miles and a picnic lunch ending their outing then. The remainder hiked the return route and did get caught in a downpour, but made it back, waterlogged, but none the worse for wear. However, a longer hike on the following day had just gotten underway when the thunder started rolling and lightning began popping and the bottom literally dropped out of the sky. Needless to say, we hurridedly turned around and made a bee-line back to the vans at our starting point, but were drenched to the bone nonetheless. However, the two days of rain resulted in unexpectedly high, faster flowing water than usual, which gave us the ride of a lifetime when we floated the Nantahala River in rubber rafts, expertly guided by professional rafters, on a beautiful, sunny day. Leading up to these outdoor activities were classes spent in learning to paddle rafts on a pond and lectures on hiking/equipment, which were good preparations for our adventures. A local writer and outdoorsman did a fine job of teaching us about the natural history of the area through field studies of the bird and plant life. He also presented slides//lectures of the Cherokees and early white culture of the area. Complimenting these subjects were musical offerings, both instumental and vocal, by a local folk singer/instrumentalist. The final night closing program was an exceptional one put on by The Mountain Quartet, whose members were all from the staff, but certainly talented musically. Overall, this particular elderhostel receives a high recommendation. _____________________ Elderhostel At Sheldon Jackson "martha schumacher" (firstname.lastname@example.org) Sheldon Jackson College in Sitka , Ak has a wonderful elderhostel program. Lots to do here and easy walk to town activities and shopping. Also during the week they take you out on a boat for a 3 hour cruise to see the hump back whales, puffins any other wildlife. Accomodations are in very comfortable student housing. Sitka is a wonderful place and even though I am working here , I have plenty of time to explore. The Totum Pole National park is adjacent to the campus for nature walks. Also the Raptor center is available ( just a short walk through the park) Here you can see the eagles and other birds being repaired and put back into flight. In addition you have the Russian history ...old Bishops house, Russian Church and other historical places to explore. Direct any interested people to contact me for more info. as I sometimes work in the elderhostel office here on campus and can give some first hand information about the new programs on the boat...This leaves from Bellingham but is coordinated by the office here at Sheldon Jackson. Sheldon Jackson College is the oldest college in Alaska and there is a museum right on campus will all the artifacts that Sheldon Jackson( the founder ) collected on his many trips through Alaska the remote villages where he started schools. I willbe happy to answer questions. MartaS773@hotmail.com. This address is through August 25th then back to AOL. ######################################### Personals ######################################### Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:22:24 -0400 From: "Linda C. Bowman" (lbowman@MIT.EDU) Subject: 55 and working In response to John Prince's question toward the end of the web page, Don't let "still working" stop you! I've done two, and my only problem is that it's hard not to envy the folks with freedom to extend visits and take more trips! A number of the people on my trips (ecology in Georgia, architecture in Arizona) were still working, some full time and some part. I've got 8 years and 7 months (and counting!) to go before retirement, and I hope to get in 2 Elderhostels (or one overseas) a year until then. One other comment: I found that both trips were a little too sedentary for me. We traveled to field visits in vans or car pooled, and a lot of our learning took place indoors in classrooms. There was not a lot of leisure time built into the programs, and the accomodations were so convenient that there wasn't much need to walk and no occasion to hike without missing some of the program. I'v started reading the catalogs with an eye to ones that specifiy the need for walking or hiking as a part of the program, and will save the more sedentary ones for later years, when I may find it more difficult to get around. _______________ From: PBerlA@aol.com Subject: summer elderhostel info Can you send me by e-mail information about elderhostels that would be good in the summer. I''ve only gone to CA and Ariz. in the fall and winter. I would like to go somewhere in August, but I'm not sure where. A private bath would be good also. Thanks. ____________ Subject: England From: Gayle Falgoust
Hello - I'm attending my first international Elderhostel in September and would love to hear from anyone who has done these or similar programs. Mine ia a two-week program: one week in London ("Londoner's London") and one week in Ripon/York ("2000 Years of English History"). Has anyone out there done either of these? Let me hear from you. Gayle in New Orleans __________ Marge Stockton Fort Worth/Dallas, TX, area email@example.com My husband and I recently returned from our first ever Elderhostel adventure. We took the program in France and England called "England and France: Friends or Foes". We spent 10 days in the Anjou region of France and 10 days in County Essex in England. It was a glorious experience! The whole adventure far exceeded our greatest expectations. The program focused on Medieval history: the Norman Conquest, the Plantagenets, etc. We learned so much and had a grand time. Best of all were the other people in the group. Our group of 30 was made up of some of the most intelligent, learned, well-read, opinionated, and delightful people we have ever met. A few will be continuing friends. Now we're having trouble deciding what Elderhostel adventure to undertake next. ______________ PNestor@aol.com I'm researching info for a friend about programs at Stronghold, IL. She plans to register for a program in Oct. The subjects are autumn ecology; history of the Bible; and memoir writing. Would appreciate any info you have; also please include in the next personals section of the journal. Thanks. Pat Nestor ___________ from: firstname.lastname@example.org We would like to hear form anyone who has been to the "Thailand Elderhostel Program". We have registered for the Feb. 99 departure and would be interested in hearing opinions re: quality of program, accomodations, food, etc. Thanks. Leonard Gerber ________ Subject: The Elderhostel Mysteries From: "Peter E. Abresch Sr." (email@example.com) I'd like to tell you a bit about BLOODY BONSAI, the first of the James P. Dandy ELDERHOSTEL Mysteries. It's been billed as: I am writing a new series of Elderhostel mysteries geared to the interests, problems, and delights of those who are mellowing into fine wine. "Bloody Bonsai," ISBN 1-885173-34-2, the first in the James Dandy ELDERHOSTEL Mysteries, weaves adventure and romance into a tale of blood and bonsai and murder. When everyone pushed widower James Dandy into going on a senior citizen ELDERHOSTEL, romance was the last thing on his mind. No. The last thing on his mind was to find a busboy with a bonsai tree sticking out of his chest. No. The last thing was to be read his rights for killing the sleazy little man. Nor did it help that his new romance, widow Dodee Swisher, wanted them to track down the real killer themselves. Then again, maybe it did. "Bloody Bonsai," ISBN: 1-885173-34-2, by Peter Abresch, Write Way Publishing, Ph. (800) 680-1493 You may get a look at the cover and first chapter by going out to: http://www.writewaypub.com/bonsai.html editor's note- Peter's story of his publishing ventures is told in the Fall 1998 issue of "Elderhostel Insider"