xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Elderhostel Notebook #70 Aug. 3, 2000 oxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Welcome to Elderhostel Notebook, the e-zine where hostelers compare notes on elderhostel programs. EN is an independent project, appreciative of but not associated with Elderhostel Inc. http://www.elderhostel.org EN has a WWW site at http://members.aol.com/EHnotebook To subscribe to the e-mail edition and/or to submit reviews of programs taken send an e-mail to the editor, Jim Olson, at EHnotebook@aol.com Please keep all correspondence in simple e-mail text format. ################################################ From the Editor's Notebook ################################################ This issue is a trifle short but I wanted to send it out before leaving for Lakewoods resort in Cable, Wisconsin, where we spent a week each summer with our daughter and her family- sort of a do it yourself inter generational elderhostel program. The next issue of the Dialogue will come out in Mid August when we return. I hope I didn't miss any reports in this issue as material came in both here at home and while we were on the road enroute to and at at the Dixie College program. It is always a bit confusing to coordinate material from the notebook computer and the desktop computer using different mailing programs and AOL versions. If I did lose your report in the process please send your report again for the next issue. I took advantage of the short issue to include some verses I wrote at the Dixie College program in my report. ################################################ Program Reviews ################################################ Intergenerational: Hawaii Dixie College, St. George, Utah Pennsylvania State University Elderhostel Four Scandinavian Capitals Iceland Birding Santee-Cooper Elderhostel, SC Russian Waterways - Adventures Afloat ___________ Intergenerational: Hawaii HGrabow284 July, 2000 The Hawaii Intergenerational trip was divided into three parts: Earth, Sky,and Water. The earth had to do with Volcanoes. We walked up (Way Up) cinder cones, Lava crusts (on top of real lava), and Rain Forest paths. The group also stayed for several days in Waimea which is Parker Ranch country. Would you believe a ranch of 250,000 acres on Big Island? It is there! Teddy , my 9 year old grandson went Horseback riding. It was his FIRST and he could not stop smiling! For the "Sky" part, we went up 9,000 feet on Mauna Kea.The Observatories are at 13,000 feet, but children are not allowed to go up that high. However, the Astronomer-lecturer did have many high powered telescopes set up and while it was still day-light, both Teddy and I got to see the "spots" on the sun. After dark, we located many constellations, but my biggest thrill was being able to see the Big Dipper AND The Southern Cross all at the same time! Only in Hawaii does this happen. In the "Water" part, we snorkeled, swam , and explored Tide Pools. Of course, we all were instructed in Hawaiian words, Hula, Lei making, Hawaiian cooking and even Hawaiian legends. Sue McGovern had us spell-bound with her "story-telling" and the kids did not want her to stop! The co-ordinators of this were Sue and Rob McGovern. A more sensitive and co-operative couple that one could ever meet! They were SPLENDID! I heartily endorse this program, however it is as it states......physically active! I wished that I, in preparing for this event, had climbed more stairs and hills and not emphasized the "walking". My grandson counted up all the things that he did for the very first time in his life. There were twenty-one! Helen J. Grabowski ___________ Dixie College, St. George, Utah Three National Parks July 16-21, 2000 Olsonjam@uwec.edu Dixie College is a state college located on the southern edge of Utah near a number of National Parks and National Monuments. It offers a number of elderhostel programs each year at its Conference Center in St. George, an older converted women's dormitory located 8-10 blocks from the modern campus, and at various other locations in southern Utah. The National Parks program is one of their "rolling" programs that uses a motor coach to take the program participants to the site of their studies rather than rely on indoor classroom experiences. The major course of study was the geology of the area, namely the Colorado Plateau that rose from ancient seas millions of years ago to force the Colorado, Virgin, and other rivers to cut deep canyons and form many rocky formations out of the layers of sedimentary rocks put down by the ancient sea. layers of rock form distinctive patterns of geologic aging in stages know as the Grand Escolante Staircase, each stage starting with its lower, oldest layer as the youngest, topmost layer from the last stage. Le Grande Escolante Plateaus, Steps of ages, Carry earth's memory Up the staircase, rising on tides Of Time. The major canyon formed this way was the Grand Canyon, and the north rim of the Grand canyon was one of the parks visited along with Bryce Canyon and Canyons in Zion national Park. We learned of mesas and buttes and arches and natural bridges, of hoodoos (formations eroded into symbolic shapes) of dinosaurs, and of pioneers in the area. At Zion we hiked along trails above the Virgin River, named after an early explorer in the area, noting the great variety of micro climates and features. Two of the evenings during the program were spent at motels located along the route and three evenings at the Conference Center in St. George. Breakfasts were generally continental breakfasts at the center or the hotels, lunches were sack lunches, and dinner was at the College cafeteria some 8 blocks from the center (bus transportation provided) or at a restaurant along the way. One evening meal was a Cowboy cookout at a camping area on the route. We were concerned that July might be a hot time to take this program, and it was with daily high temperatures at St. George at 100 degrees or above. This didn't prove to be a problem, however, as the parks where we spent most of our time were at much higher altitudes where temperatures were more moderate. The hikes in the parks were moderate with the longest about three miles long and most were not steep or rugged- with one exception at Bryce. The instruction was excellent and the director gracious and helpful. As usual the group was good company with particpants from every region of the country. The Conference center and the motor coach are both showing their age but rooms had private baths and provided clean comfortable lodging, and the bus was reliable and the driver friendly and skillful. Meals were generally good. We would have appreciated a little more time to explore the college campus. We had a discount at the college book store but no time to use it. On Friday morning local re enactors gave us a delightful tour of St. George where we met Brigham Young who had sent some of his flock down to the area to grow cotton (hence the Dixie name) and one of his many wives, along with other assorted pioneers, including a judge who held court and tried an unrepentant member of our group for the crime of stealing water from his neighbor. A program well worth taking. Jim and Maggie Olson ________________________ Pennsylvania State University Elderhostel Early American Popular Music judykg@gte.net OUTSTANDING OUTSTANDING OUTSTANDING if you like early American popular music and its history. Pennsylvania State University/Off Campus. We had three classes: #1 The World of Ragtime, Early Tin Pan Alley (popular music from 1900 to 1930), and Dixieland Jazz, presented by Tex Wyndham who is an entertainer who gave us wonderful history and wonderful piano and voice renditions of many songs. Class #2 Jazz: Dixieland--how jazz is created (NOT modern Jazz) by an excellent band music teacher, including a performance of his Dixieland Band (wonderful), and #3 The Mills Brothers: history, films, recordings. The Hotel is the Days Inn in State College, Pennsylvania, lovely rooms, daily maid service. Food was also very good. Lovely town. One of the best of the 28 Elderhostels we've attended. Judy Gorman _____________ Four Scandinavian Capitals ciharbor1@earthlink.net A friend and I took the four Scandinavian Capitals, three weeks and the Iceland Birding trip for two weeks. Both trips were very well organized, excellent accommodations, really good variety of food and restaurants for dinner and lunch. All of the local guides were excellent with the exception of Sweden. He was a bit disorganized. We were in each of the four capitals for four days and went from morning til night to see all the sights. We were all provided with a transportation pass in each city which we used sometimes as a group or on our own, nice amenity. We attended an opera, a concert, folk dance performances and a play. We took the overnight ferry twice between countries so no time was lost in travel and that is really a great way to go, wonderful buffet and beautiful scenery. I really felt we got a good taste of the Scandinavian countries and would recommend the trip. My friend an I took a day trip on our own in Norway, called Norway in a Nutshell, well worth the expense and can be booked at most of the hotels. Took you through the mountains and on a boat through a fjord. Carol Shoemaker _______________________________ Iceland Birding ciharbor1@earthlink.net The Iceland trip took us clear around Iceland and I loved it and would highly recommend it even if you are not a bird watcher, as about half of us on the trip were not. We had a wonderful guide and bus driver and a large comfortable bus so many of us had seats to ourselves, which was nice as we traveled every day. I must first preface my remarks about Iceland by saying that the sun shone 13 out of the 15 days we were there and the two rainy ones were not really heavy rain in Icelandic terms. Had it been true Icelandic weather and rained 13 out of the 15 days I might have had a different feeling. Might also have had a different feeling if instead of 18 to 24 hours of daylight we had been there in winter when the reverse is true. Iceland has absolutely beautiful and dramatic scenery snow capped mountains, waterfalls, lava fields, dramatic bird cliffs with thousands of birds, green coastal areas with small farming or fishing villages. The villages are attractive as the roofs are often painted bright colors which used to signify political affiliation but are now just decorative and some of the houses themselves are brightly painted. There are many many waterfalls in all sizes, glaciers, geysers, bubbling mud springs, and lava fields with fantastic formations, a few beautiful beaches, and quaint fishing harbors. We saw 60+ kinds of birds, many Icelandic horses, reindeer, and an artic fox. It is an extremely clean country, very homogeneous, very high literacy rate, high standard of living. The food was wonderful. lots of fish, of course, salmon and trout being the most common. All soups were made with lots of cream and butter, how can you miss. Good breads and dessert, not such great salads and vegetables. Most kids of middle school and high school age either work in the summer or go to work school and which is sort of community service type project. School is free, health care is free, taxes and costs are high but they do get something back for their taxes. very stringent gun control laws, very little crime. Carol Shoemaker ______________________ Santee-Cooper Elderhostel South Carolina View From A Canoe pfwriter@olg.com This Elderhostel took place on the Santee-Cooper lakes of South Carolina, down near the Georgia boarder. The time of the year as October and it involved a fair amount of-- surprise--canoeing. We, my wife Annemarie and I, had a super time. We canoe through the Sparkleberry Swamp, which sounds yucky, but was great, in and out of cypress trees with Spanish moss, some places just wide enough for a single canoe, and then open up to a hidden pond. Birds and turtles and things all made in interesting. Supposedly there's some 'gators around as well, but we didn't see any. We also canoed down the Edisto River, quite a hefty jaunt, but it was downstream and everyone came through with flying colors. Also included in this were nature trips to a Carolina Bay, Bidler Forest, and a boat ride to the sunken forest on Santee-Cooper and a visit to the hydroelectric power plant and lock. Of course, I saw few bodies, dead people, those who had come to a foul end, but fortunately that was all in my imagination as I researched the trip for the third in the James P. Dandy Elderhostel Mysteries, TIP A CANOE. It comes out in January and you can check it out at: http://www.olg.com/pfwriter Pam Ardern did fine job of herding us around, answering questions, and seeing we were well taken care of. The food was above adequate, though not gourmet like in Baltimore. And the rooms were motel style. All in all, I recommend it to those who would like to do an active Elderhostel. Peter Abresch Author of BLOODY BONSAI, KILLING THYME the Jim Dandy ELDERHOSTEL Mysteries _____________ Russian Waterways - Adventures Afloat Rjjnana I have just returned from this trip (June 16-30) and found it a wonderful way to visit Russia for the first time. Our home for all but 3 days was the Nicolai Bauman, a Russian river cruise ship. There were 80 oi us Elderhostlers (divided in 2 groups for sightseeing) and a group of French tourists on board. Cabins were small but we had a private bath and shower and did not spend much time there. The first 3 days we visited Moscow including the Bolshoi Moscow Circus, and then sailed on the VVolga stopping at several towns and cities along the way. Each town had it own personality, large or small - although we did visit lots of churches and monasteries! We were at the Angelterre Hotel in St. Peterbsurg the last 3 days - a 5 star hotel with an incomparable breakfast buffet. We visited all the important sites - and had very knowledgeable guides in all the cities. Our leaders, Mara and Stan, did an excellent job including dealing with some medical problems. Weather ranged from cold and rainy in Moscow to sunny and hot at some of the stops on the river. I would highly recommend this trip. Ruth Johnson