Going Elderhosteling _________________ /| / / | o___________|_\__/_______/__| ]|___ | |= || =|___ |" // \\ | |___||_/// \\|" | X |\-------------/| X |\"~ \___/ \___/ xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Elderhostel Notebook May 1996 oxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox Elderhostel Notebook is the bimonthly e-mail publication of the Silver Threads (formerly Senior Group), an informal collection of net seniors. It is the product of elderhostlers, and is independent of the Elderhostel organization and not associated with it. It is published in alternate months with the Senior Group Newsletter, but has a separate mailing list. Submissions are welcome and voluntary as are comments and suggestions. Editor is Jim Olson olsonjam@uwec.edu with assistance by Jean Sterling sterlij@freenet.scri.fsu.edu There is no charge for either publication. Just contact the editor to subscribe. ********************************************** Contents From the Editors Notebook News and Comments Elderhostel Reviews Personals ######################################## Editor's Notebook ######################################## The first issue of Elderhostel Notebook was well received and we have a number of new subscribers. Based on the comments and suggestions I have made several changes in the format for this issue. The Tales from Elderhostel and News and Comments have been combined and a new section added, Personals. This is a section for posting whatever you wish to post- questions, requests for information about specific programs, appeals to old friend to contact you- new friends, too. It will also replace Introductions as you should feel free to introduce yourself with a Personal, and many of you do introduce yourselves with your reviews of specific elderhostels. Please use these reviews and personals as a way of getting together online by e-mail with the other subscribers. The ending poetry in this issue is from some hiaku I composed after our last elderhostel. Please help out with the poetic chores, someone. I have repeated some general information items from the first first edition for the many new subscribers. ######################################### News and Comments ######################################### Meeting Locals at Elderhostels One of the features of many elderhostels is the evening program that brings in one or more of the local people from the elderhostel site to speak about some aspect of life in that area. These often (but not always) provide interesting glimpses into the character and life of the region. Other opportunities to get these glimpses ofter occur during a scheduled afternoon or day off for individual exploration of the area where the hostler can independently explore some aspect of specific interest to the hostler. last fall on Lake Superior's North Shore we met again with Justin Kerfoot who established Gunflint Lodge up on the boundary waters and shares her experiences of moving from city life of the 1930's to life in the north woods; learning to manage dog sleds to transport materials in to build the lodge; meeting, marrying, and separating from one of the lodge workers who shared a life but not a dream with her, and many other northwoods adventures. Now in her 80's she is as lively and articulate as the two books she has written about her life indicate. The last one, Gunflint, Reflections on the Trail is a good read. She starts with: "As I drive along, contemplating the intricacies of life, the car gives a gasless sigh. It is 15 degrees below zero, and it is midnight. I will cover the last three miles the old-fashioned way, by placing one foot ahead of the other." And that is essentially the story of her life, lived to the fullest by placing one foot ahead of the other. At our last elderhostel we met two Arizona cowboys who gave us a first hand account of the gritty life on the range minus all the media images. It was of interest to us that one of them was a woman. When asked if she wasn't then a "cowgirl" she replied that the term "cowboy" is an occupational term and that is what she is. Her husband, who looks like eveybody's image of what a cowboy should look like, hinted in a wry and salty way that cowgirls had some of the traits of bar girls and his wife may have some of the most desirable traits of both but essentially she is a cowboy capable of roping, branding, dehorning, castrating, and all of the other nitty gritties of cattle raising. At other elderhostels we have met many other of the local people and always look forward to this aspect of hosteling. __________________ Using the Elderhostel World Wide Web Site The elderhostel World Wide Web site at http://www.elderhostel.org is developing at a rapid rate with new features added regularly. A catalog of US and Canada programs is available online and can be searched for key words if you have a web browser such as Netscape that supports searches. For example, I entered the search word "birdwatching" for the Spring catalog and found several sites. I found one that looked interesting to me, "Birdwatching in the Canadian Rockies" and read the information about it. A new feature of the web site allows the user to check on the status of any program currently being enrolled, giving the enrollment status. I went back to the home page clicked on Catalogs and then on the new feature "program availability index," entered the program number I got from the earlier search (and had wisely copied to the "clipboard" in my PC,) and found that the program has a capacity of 26 and is filled with 11 on the waiting list. It takes a little doing to do this and a web browser, but it does save multiple phone calls to Boston to see if a desired program is full. What it didn't tell me, however, was what my relative position on the waiting list was if I had entered the waiting list. Can't have everything, I guess. -olsonjam@uwec.edu _____________________ ######################################### Elderhostel Reviews ######################################### Jekyll Island, Georgia Our First Elderhostel We're finally "old enough" to go on an Elder Hostel! So with another couple, also retired off we went. We arrived at Jekyll Island, Georgia on Sunday Feb. 21st, at 4 pm in time to get signed in by a most delightful host couple. We were pleasantly surprised to get lovely accommodations at the Comfort Inn Resort Hotel. We had been told not to expect a room facing ocean but did get one. It was almost a 2 room apt. Two double beds & bath as we entered then a half wall separated a living room with sofa, table chairs, tv & kitchen that even had an oven. Sliding glass doors out to a patio that faced the ocean. This was not the typical motel. At far end was a Dennys & Pizza Inn with conference rooms upstairs where classes met. That night after dinner we met "the group" and introduced ourselves. We came from 13 states and Canada. Many had been to numerous Elderhostels before and several were "first timers" like us. The classes were all sponsored by Mercer University. The first was about George Bernard Shaw and how he went from Pygmallion to My Fair Lady. Videos & movies & lots of interesting information. Also learned how Shaw wanted to write a new alphabet & that's how Professor Higgins was born. Remember he tried to capture all the different dialects of people? Saw film clips of Shaw's "Major Barbara" and original Pygmallion. The lecturer had a wonderful dry sense of humor. There was a coffe break in the morning & several "stretch breaks" as well. Next class was Route 66. On film we followed the "Oakies" (with a very young Henry Fonda) in "Grapes of Wrath" traveling on the original Route 66. This was followed by films and videos of the area as they look today. The lecturer who had a great personality, was in the radio & TV field & had many fascinating stories to tell about the area as well as entertaining anecdotes about famous celebrities. He included some WW II stories and songs. (That's where I drew a "blank", I guess I was one of the youngest there). The third class was Medley of Art. The lecturer was an Art Historian. She showed slides depicting art work when it was only two dimensional, and then demonstrated how artists learned to show depth to their figures as well as perspective to make things look bigger & smaller. In the early days all art work was just plain flat looking. I can see how this can help me with my computer graphic work. One afternoon we were taken on a trolley tour of the island with an excellent tour guide & that was very enlightening seeing the mansions and grounds & hearing the history. The last morning a historian of Jekyll Island read letters written by a governess of the rich people in the late 1800's. Their "cottages" are not as grand as those in Newport but they certainly seemed like mansions to us. The letters poked fun at the rich. She said although they had lots of money they were very dull & not too bright. We had a good laugh about that! Our meals were all buffet style in a special section of Dennys, not gourmet but quite plentiful & varied. Always hot and cold breakfasts. If you were an early riser the hotel provided a hospitality table in lobby also. At lunch there were choices of pizzas from the Pizza Inn as well as salads, sandwiches etc. Each night there was a full hot meal and make your own ice cream sundaes. The last night's dinner was served (not buffet) in a banquet room with flowers & candles on the tables. Several EH'ers entertained with stories and one man wrote a great poem about ALL of us there. Our host couple were wonderful and looked out for us continually. I think when we travel with friends again we will make more of an effort to dine with others as everyone there seemed to have an interesting experience to offer and we didn't hear them all. We had free time to go explore both Sea Island and St. Simons and of course do some shopping. We all decided that for our first Elderhostel we were very lucky to have gone to such a nice place & to have such engrossing courses. Yes, we will definitely go to another one in the future. Florence Block Lake Worth, Florida Flobabe@aol.com ______________ Grand Canyon Odyssey, Yavapai College- April 14-21 1996 A Grand Canyon program is a must elderhostel for those interested in the beauty and wonder on nature and man's interaction with it. There are several Grand Canyon programs, and this one is an excellent choice since it covers many aspects of the Grand Canyon experience and follows the canyon from the base of the Glen Canyon Dam to the end of the Canyon at The Havasupi and Walapai Indian reservations. There are both classroom and field experiences that include short guided hikes, visiting historic sites, and a half day float trip on the Colorado river through a quiet but spectacular section from the Glen Canyon Dam to the landing at Lee's Ferry, just above the first of the many rapids on the river, the point of no return for more extensive float trips through the canyon. It was done in two base locations, with three days spent at the Marble Canyon Lodge, a modern motel near the head of the Canyon, and three Days at the Grand Canyon Caverns Inn, a less modern and less accommodating establishment close to the end of the Canyon near the Hualapai Indian reservation. The one part of the canyon not covered was the Canyon as experienced from the north rim as that portion of the Grand Canyon National Park was still snow covered and inaccessible. The weather at this time of the year on the south rim and the areas we covered was pleasant with cool mornings and warm days and we soon learned the art of "layering" to adjust to changing weather conditions. The instruction dealt with the fascinating history on man in the Canyon area from the early Anasazis who lived in and along the canyon to the pioneers who crossed the river here at Lees ferry; the Geology of the Canyon; nature in the Canyon; and the culture of the Navajos, one of the more recent tribes whose culture and economy is associated with the canyon. The instruction and coordination of the program were very good and the accomodations and food service were adequate. Most participants arrived by auto either traveling from their home or by rental car from nearby cities, but several flew to Las Vegas and flew from there on a small plane that flew them over the canyon and landed on a small airstrip near the motel (the terminal is a picnic bench at the end of the runway.) Yavapai College did provide transportation between the two sites for those who did not have their own vehicles at the mid-week change of location. This is one of the Grand Canyon programs not marked in the catalog as "for the active elderhostler," meaning that it did not require any strenuous physical activity. Several programs in the area do involve such things a back-packing, long hikes, and climbing difficult trails, and some that involve a longer float trip at the lower end of the canyon with overnight camping in the canyon. Jim Olson olsonjam@uwec.edu ___________ The Life and Land of the Hopi People April 7-12, 1996 Yavapai College If you enjoy the challenge of trying to understand how another cultural group thinks, behaves, and believes, this elderhostel will be a delight. If you want exposure to the arts, crafts, and traditional designs of a people whose current lives are still strongly based on their centuries-old history, you'll find it here. If you're interested in contemporary issues involving land, education, and the impact of the dominant culture on the Hopi way of life, you'll learn about that too. This elderhostel can provide a wonderful and varied experience for any of its participants. It _is_ possible to approach the experience with no background at all, but to get the most out of it, preparation is essential. Upon acceptance to the program, participants are sent a reading list that offers an excellent grounding in Hopi history and belief. With that grounding, it's possible to begin to understand (not superficially, but with some insight) the deep feelings and ties that Hopis have for their people, their land, and their ceremonies. The katchinas will come alive for you; the myths will highlight the significance of contemporary situations; the mores of action and interaction will make sense and be easier to follow as you meet and talk with Hopi from all parts of their society. During our week in Hopi, we talked with a medicine woman, two potters, a katchina carver, a silversmith, an enforcement officer from the Office of Hopi Lands, and a non-indian who has lived among the Hopi for 40 years. On field trips we traveled to communities on each of the three mesas; visited ancient and contemporary villages; spent an afternoon among one of the world's largest occurences of petroglyphs; searched for pottery sherds (to be left in place!) at the ruins of Awatovi; and saw examples of dry farming techniques used by the Hopi. Our lectures covered history, cultural differences, conflicts with the Navajo, fake and imitation crafts for the tourist trade, and the work of the Hopi Foundation. It was a full and inspiring week that blended thought, beauty, and spirit in a most enjoyable setting. Much of the success of the week can be attributed to the knowledge, sensitivity, and patience of Donald Nelson (Hopi), the coordinator of the program. Always accessible and enthusiastic, he coaxed us with humor and honesty to see past our own values to the values of the Hopi--that is, cooperation instead of competition group emphasis instead of individual emphasis modesty instead of self-attention passiveness instead of action patience instead of aggressiveness sharing instead of saving etc. and sometimes his coaxing worked. And those are the times that we'll always remember best--when we truly did get a glimpse of another way a life. Eliose Blanpeid gdb4@cornell.edu ____________ Middleburg, VA spring 1996 An Elderhostel in Middleburg, Va. in July was wonderful. It was held at Foxcroft, an exclusive girl's prep school in the heart of the hunt country. Our New Jersey Governor, Christine Todd Whitman, graduated from here as did her mother. The dorms have private rooms with bath. The food was better than some and the attendees were great as were the staff and instructors. They offer Elderhostel courses every summer. A very pretty setting with an outdoor pool, tennis courts and beautiful grounds. We got a peek at the lifestyles of the "rich and famous" during a lecture on fox hunting that featured the master of the hounds. Quite a fascinating subject even for non-hunters. We hadn't realized the economy of the area was so enmeshed with the hunt culture. Disney had attempted to build a theme park in this part of Virginia but supposedly it was insiders from around here that put a stop to it. Rounding out the week were field trips to Harpers Ferry and Antietam. Pat and John McIntyre patmci@net-gate.com ________________ OLD DOMINION U/PORTSMOUTH, APRIL, 1996 Mid-April is a good time of the year to be in the Southeastern area of Virginia. And on a warm sunny day, it's a great time to be in the Great Dismal Swamp National Wildlife Refuge. Forty eight elderhostelers (18 couples and 12 singles) were there on a field trip. This visit to the swamp was supplemented by 4 other days in a conference room at the Holiday Inn Portsmouth, where we learned of the history of the area, the ecology of the swamp, and heard interesting stories of the indians and settlers of the area. Especially facinating were lectures by Pete Wrike, a ODU lecturer/historian and writer. Other lecturers were also very knowledgable and interesting. Walking tours of Old Towne Portsmouth and Norfolk, and a boat cruise on the Elizabeth river, added to the enjoyment of the program. The motel accommodations were good, and its location close to the Portsmouth/Norfolk cultural and historical areas was ideal. And, where else could you see a Navy aircraft carrier being "tugged", not more than 75 feet away from your classroom window? The food was very good, although after having had chicken served baked, roasted, boiled, grilled, creamed, chopped (in soup), and sliced (in sandwiches), one could only wish for a pizza or a big mac. Dispite the proximity to the Chesapeake Bay and the ocean, fish or crab were not on the menus (except that which comes in a can). Overall, the program is very well coordinated and presented by Stephanie Carcano. This was the second running of this program and, indications are, that it will be offered again next spring. We highly recommend it. Frank & Bene FranknBene@aol.com _____________ PRUDE RANCH-- Fort Davis Texas, spring 1996 In March, Dorothy and I attended an Elderhostel at a place called Prude Ranch, in West Texas, y'all, near a little town called Fort Davis. You need strong bifocals to find Prude on a map; it is about 150 miles Ranch, in West Texas, y'all, near a little town called Fort Davis. You need strong bifocals to find Prude on a map; it is about 150 miles southeast of El Paso (the nearest big town), in dry bones desert ranch country, in the middle of nowhere. The outfit is a working ranch, but nowadays it derives its principal income from Elderhostelers and other dudes. There were 50 hostelers from 18 states. Accommodations were in motel-like rooms with bath (some folks stayed in their RVs), and food was served cafeteria style. The food was well prepared but the chef hadn't figured out how to keep it warm while 50 old codgers drifted along like tumbleweed through the serving line. Our program featured three courses: Bird Watching, American Cowboy Revisited, and Astronomy. For Bird Watching we were taken by bus to several places. We saw a bird-banding operation and we were taken to a wooded area--Balmorhea Lake--30 miles away--the only body of water in that part of the country. The bird watching suffered in that most of the migrating birds had not yet arrived. April or May would have been better for birding. Some expert birders in the group did better than we did, but Dorothy and I (novices) saw only 15 arrived. April or May would have been better for birding. Some expert birders in the group did better than we did, but Dorothy and I (novices) saw only 15 species or so: great blue herons, mallards, red-tailed hawks, several kinds of doves, hummers, swallows, sparrows, juncos, woodpeckers, bluebirds. The rarest bird Dorothy saw (I missed it) was a vermilion flycatcher. But the birding was a nice experience. "Cowboyology" was a course on Old West cattle ranching. We learned what cowboys do--how they brand, castrate, and inoculate calves, how they care for sick cattle, round up cattle for sale, and manage to stay alive under tough, lonely conditions. The ranches are huge (square miles) because it takes 40 acres to feed one cow in that area. The cattle industry is depressed right now because of low beef prices, and a 5-yr drought in West Texas makes the situation worse. Our leader, a real tobacco-chewing cowpoke, was a one-man show; he played the guitar and sang old cowboy songs as well as songs he had written himself, and told about the cowboy business the way it really is. He amazed us by preparing yeast-dough rolls from scratch in a Dutch oven as cowboys would do told about the cowboy business the way it really is. He amazed us by preparing yeast-dough rolls from scratch in a Dutch oven as cowboys would do on the range--he had to do this indoors using an electric range because the weather was too cold and windy outside. The temperature at Prude Ranch was mild at first but suddenly dropped from the 50s down to bone-chilling 20s, accompanied by a blast of high wind. Talk about wind-chill factor! Then we were treated to a violent West Texas dust storm. The choking dust and sand was so thick that the visibility dropped to only several hundred feet. Dust tastes lousy. But by the following morning the wind had stopped and the blue skies returned. The third course in our Elderhostel program, after Birding and "Cowboyology", was Astronomy. Prude Ranch is located at the base of the Davis Mountains (6,800 ft), highest mountain range in Texas, on top of which is located McDonald Observatory. This observatory features optical telescopes and an 82 ft diameter radio telescope which is part of the Very Long Baseline Array that can resolve angles as small as that subtended by a football at the distance of the moon. The location of the observatory is favorable in that the sky is dark out there--nearest town of any size over a hundred miles away. Yes, the stars at night were big and bright. Our instructor, an astronomer, gave us a tour of the observatory and in a series of lectures he described milestones in the development of astronomy as a science, starting from the ancient times down to modern times. He also set up a telescope at Prude Ranch and we were treated to views of the sky, both at night and (yawn) in the morning before dawn. Our instructor pointed out some of the constellations, common asterisms, and bright stars. To me, the astronomy part of the program made the entire Elderhostel worth while. Our teacher steered us onto a very good paperback--"Coming of Age in the Milky Way" by Timothy Ferris--on the history of astronomy. After leaving Prude Ranch, Dorothy and I spent a leisurely day visiting Carlsbad Caverns, 120 miles to the north. GAMarsh@aol.com ____________ Elderhostel at Santa Barbara, Ca. sponsered by the Santa Barbara Trust for Historical Preservation. Courses: Discover Santa Barbara's Cultural and Historical Past England's Merry Monarchs: The Tudors and Stuarts Santa Barbara's Back Country Vistas Lodging: Sandman Motel Lodging: Sandman Motel This Elderhostel was very well run by a co-ordinater from the Trust. Three mornings featured bus trips to the Presidio that is being restored by the Trust, the Courthouse, Museum of Natural History, a city tour, and a morning at Lake Cachuma Park with a tour given by a naturalist. There was one afternoon free and free time from 1 to 3 on the other afternoons to make a visit to the beach, other museums, shopping, or just relax in the sun. An class was given each evening after dinner. The speakers were all excellent. The woman that taught England's Merry Monarchs was outstanding and made the subject really come alive. The lunchs were at a different restaurant each day and were very good. Breakfast and dinner were at the motel restaurant. Breakfast was fair, but the dinners were good. The motel had a nice pool, whirlpool, and many chairs to enjoy the sun. The rooms were nice and the meeting room was at the motel. I would recommend this Elderhostel to anyone who wants to visit the beautiful Santa Barbara area. Ron Reas rreas@iquest.net or Ronald3549@aol.com ____________________ End part I of AOL edition ######################################## Personals ######################################### Subj: Pribilof Alaska Date: 96-03-17 21:23:58 EDT From: D Holland1@aol.com Has anyone been to the EH on the Priobilof Islands in Alaska? My Mom is wanting to go, but is unsure of the physical activity level required. She hikes a couple miles a week on trails in the Wasatch Mountains in Salt Lake City, but can not rock hop or scrambling. She's concerned that she may not be able to keep up. Anyone have ideas? Thanks Dorothy, the daughter _____________ From: Betty Audet My husband and I have done three Elderhostels for cross country skiing and enjoyed them very much. One was to the Auberge du Joli Vent in the Eastern Townships of Quebec. They continue to have such. The second was to the Gatineaux from a small hotel in Ottawa, which has since been sold. This winter it was to "The Baldwins" in the Muskoka area of Ontario. I am sure that there will be more held there. They always divide into two or three groups depending on skill levels, which makes it much easier when a couple do not have the same skills. My husband is a much better skier than I am, and although he is almost 83 has always been one of the leaders of the high level of skills. We will probably keep on with this for at least another couple of years. __________ Date: Mon, Apr 22, 1996 1:52 PM EDT From: ERWB@aol.com We just got accepted for an EH at Cape Cod(Provincetown) beginning Sept 29. Are you planning to list people going to Elderhostels? We would enjoy knowing if anyone on line is planning to attend that one. Also we would like to know if there is anyone who has attended it. We had friends who just returned from the one at New Orleans. They had a wonderful time-classes were good, many good field trips and the food was also good. They ate at different restaurants each day. There main complaint was they were almost too busy. Evelyn B. ________________ Subj: Re:New to Elderhostel Date: 96-04-20 18:43:19 EDT From: Ktgrant1@aol.com Hello. I live in Oakland, NJ (Bergen Co). I am a widow and retired from teaching in June 95. I went on my first Elderhostel in July. I choose to go to a place not to far away - in case I hated it, I could just get in the car and come home! I went to Frost Valley in the Catskill Mts. of NY. The week turned out to be wonderful and I have been to 3 more Elder hostels this year - just got back from 17 days in Hawaii. In June I go to Atlanta to learn about this summers Olympics. Sept.- to Kenya, Africa. So you can see I have embraced the program. It is not for everyone. Sometimes the accommodations are not what you would choose, sometimes they are better than you should expect -but the price is right! The food is usually OK, but not great - Hey, you don't have to cook it! My first trip to Frost Valley the food was excellent. Please read the course descriptions carefully. On every trip there are some people who complain about something that was clearly put forth. For example, on my Hawaii trip to Volcanoes National Park, it was clearly stated that there would be frequent hikes of up to 4 miles, and yet there were some who seem to be unable, or unwilling to do this. like to E-mail. I do. Good Luck - Katie Grant. ________ Date: 96-04-29 01:07:37 EDT From: TERRY BEE@aol.com For my first EH I wanted to go far, far away - so went to Portland, OR from Dallas, TX. I had a relative by marriage there (who met the plane and spent the day sightseeihg and then delivered me to myEH). At the end of of EH I met with an old school friend and wife whom I had't seen for abour 35 yrs. and we spent a few days on the gorgeous Oregon coast -- it was all a huge success. Since then have had no problem going anywhere alone and with no friends, relatives, etc. and each experience has been unique, entertaining, enlightening and fun. I will attend #6 in Sept. when I go to New Orleans which will be the closest one to my home that I have attended. PIck a really great location, then look for what interests you -- I find the courses my secondary interest - but heck, we're all different ! Good luck. __________ Subj: First Trip Date: 96-04-26 22:19:48 EDT From: JHake74245@aol.com Am going to be in Savannah the week of May 12. With all of the foreign travel so many of you do, this may not sound exciting, but I AM looking forward to it. And have planned a couple of extra days to explore Charleston. Initially wanted a trip in early spring to catch some of the spectacular floral but hope to take in the Magnolia Plantation near Charleston. Anyone have any special points of interest in that area? Also, a note on the Ozarks. Will have to look that up. Our family goes to the Lake every summer and it a wonderful! Actually, we are down at the "bottom" and rarely go neara the "big" water. We do a lot of water skiing -- especially the grandchildren. As was noted, everyone must be off on a EH trip. Found this area and was very excited about it. Am just learning to move around on AOL. This is a g-r-e-a-t idea and I want to sign up for the Notebook. ________ Subj: New Orleans Date: 96-01-30 21:29:09 EDT From: Mama Da1@aol.com Going to New Orleans May 26. Undertstand its a great time. Anyone else headed there at that time. No into has arrived from EH as of this date, but confirmation has been made. We are planning on a great time.... music, food, architecture, sights. Mick & Linda McKean _________ Subj: Slide shows Date: 96-03-13 15:20:47 EDT From: JQLesly@aol.com I've presented 15 travel slide shows at Elderhostels at self-entertainment sessions. Also at senior centers and libraries. Great opportunity to relive travel experiences. Questions invited. __________ Subj: Creative Writing EH Date: 96-04-08 16:20:58 EDT From: SrDee@aol.com Has anyone attended a Creative Writing Elderhostel? I'm scheduled for one in July at Humboldt University in CA. As a frustrated writer who has allowed her schedule to become too cluttered with other things, I'm hoping this will get me out of my rut and enable me to get some work done. I trust they'll let us work on our own material rather than on assigned topics. Would love to hear about anyone's experience there or at a similar program? Dee _________ Subj: Re: MT. Rushmore,So.Dakota Date: 96-04-10 00:29:50 EDT From: Myrl V@aol.com I am going to the Black Hills University Elderhostel June 2. Anyone else going? This will be my fifth Elderhostel trip. As a single female, I found this is the way to go. Have had great roommates. Great company, but not "clingy", going our own way most of the time. I've been to Stetson U. in Florida, to Maplelag in Minn., also in Minn., Crookston U. (computers), and Concordia College in Rock Island, Been reading many postings for other countries, but cannot afford them, however there are so many things here in USA that I never will keep up. (By the way, I did have a six weeks trip in Europe many years ago). I'L enjoy information on all your trips. MYRLV@aol.com ________________ Subj: EH Fun Date: 96-05-01 14:36:19 EDT From: MINABRAUN@aol.com My husband and I went on an EH in the mountains of Kentucky several years ago--learned about mountain people, music, and dancing. It was great. Then last year I signed up alone for a three week one in London (Phil died in 1993.) I would have taken classes at Sotheby's on all kinds of "decorative arts." It was cancelled because of insufficient enrollment and I was heartbroken--it was so suited to my interests and I've been an Anglophile since 'way back. I keep looking for another one similar to it, but no luck so far. Any suggestions? _______________ We live in central CA and went on our first EH several years ago. We wanted to stay close to home in case we didn't like it. We have been on seven since. What fun. Our first one was at Silver Penny Farms in Petaluma CA. It was on the old Hearst ranch. Mr. Hearst gave the ranch to the Catholic church, so the program is run by a father and two nuns. What a supprise when we got there and what a well run program. Small group of about 20 and we stayed in the old ranch house that had been refurbished. Doris and I stayed in the tank house. Programs where life of Jack London, Vallejo and a beginners drawing class. Wine on the deck before dinner and a swim in the pool or a soak in the spa. Close to the wine country and free time to tour. Try it, you will like it. Don DavisDon65@aol.com ______________ I just returned from a great EH at Harding University 50 miles north of Little Rock. We stayed on campus at the Heritage Inn, great motel types room with Television. Had unlimited food choices in the cafeteria and confortable seats for lectures. subject was: Spirituality in Anglo/AMerican films, Election Watch '96 and Opera & musical Theater. Sweet young things from the music Dept entertained us with their talents, also the school orchestra. Anything you asked for within reason was provided. I would recommend this EH for the Fall when jazz is offered. Martas773@aol.com ________ From: Barbar624@aol.com Returned last week (April 1995) from Central Washington U. in Ellensburg. It was a wonderful EH. Spent all the time learning about the chimps who know sign language. It is almost heart stopping to realize that you can communicate like this. We could tell the chimps apart and knew each personality. They are very careful there about being too intrusive in the chimp's lives. I picked up a lot of sign language! Food was wonderful also. The whole experence has really gotten me thinking. Everyone there was very effected by the chimpanzees and the people who work with them. I will never look at animals the same. Barb ************************ Three Birds in the Canyon above white waters where ancient seas built red rocks, Raven wings sail on. Falcon eyes peer down, At distant Teals flashing blue, marks of destiny. dark flights of swallows bank and turn to watch the river, canyon guardians finis